Concluding Season Four of “Gossip About Gossip,” With a Deep Dive into the Future of Blockchain Technology

Welcome to gossip about gossip, powered by Hadera Hashgraf. In each episode, we'll cut through the hype of blockchain promises and explore real world examples of organizations creating the next generation decentralized applications, which will bring trust back to the internet for us all. Welcome to the final episode of season four of gossip about gossip. I just wanna thank everyone. This has been a great year. We have seen some amazing projects, and you are the ones making it The people here, the teams, the projects, the enterprises, all of you in the community have made this a fantastic year for building a Dera and the ecosystem, and setting the foundation for a hundred year project. We have seen some very interesting things this year on gospel about gossip season four. And now we're right around the corner from season five. I think it'd be good to just take a look back and see what some of the highlights were of season four. So let's get started. I just wanna say thank you and hello, Future. The distributed ledger is the missing link, that that connects our program of generating the credits with the platform. Again, this this trading platform for physicals is already in action in hemp. It's customized for carbon. We're just waiting for a pipeline of inventory to build so that we can go live with this thing. And then we need to put this distributed ledger in there. And one of the reasons we love the Hadara network is the the low cost low energy and and and the speed of it? You know, when you're talking about saving the environment, you have to walk the walk, and you have to go Go with the vendors that that, you know, don't consume vast amounts of energy to run it. So so we are still early days in that. It is it's the missing link, but it's also the last piece. To be perfectly transparent, right now, the priority is getting carbon credits. It's not an overnight process. And so we're we wanna you know, there's no point in having a this this, super robust platform without the inventory of credits to trade. So simultaneously, this year, we're we're onboarding the clients, getting the first credits issued, and then getting that that ledger piece implement it. People did not know what Haddaro was about. During that time, they know they know now. And with regards to the various organizations that, Hadera is part of, which I found fantastic whether it's swirl labs, swirls labs that foundation, ask Office Association. It's a magnificent group of colleagues. And it's the first time I had a chance to actually visit with them But, you know, the sessions that were I I have to say whether you were talking about policy, whether you were talking about, you know, How do you actually, use these technologies to create what we call the what we call trust and why it's trust one of the, aspects that I personally was participating in various conversations about what differentiates Hadera from others. And that is trust. And not easily said, but it's enterprise driven, that our companies, have joined the council, have joined the group. They they drive, the conversations with Hadera. We have, you know, we have people who are responsible from the policy side of the house. We have you know, for for we have somebody who's a CFO. We have communications officers yourself. I mean, we have just And, also, you have, lawyers who are involved in making sure that we do have governments. And that's a differentiation differentiator from what people have, you know, from what people have experienced in the past. And, you know, we are sort of, we are very inclusive And so what made you decide, you know, hey, this is the time for us to join the governing council of a blockchain. Well, I think there's two reasons really Zenobia. The first one is, as I mentioned, we have a lot of infrastructure products. And our customers are increasingly moving from centralizing them in one location to distributing them across multiple locations, whether it's multi cloud or whether it's edge. So we believe that a distributed ledger will be a con a critical part of the architecture for edge computing. We need some sort of trusted multi party way to communicate business transactions. And so Dell is increasingly in exploring distributed ledger technology. And Hadera has that enterprise focus that we really liked. So that's reason number one that that we've decided to join. The second reason is that our customers are increasingly interested experimenting with writing applications that run on distributed ledgers. So, for us, when we join the Council, right, to actually implement a node, right, a Dell server running on the Hadera network, we'll gain valuable experience that we can, and then turn and share with our customers and help them on their journey to use distributed ledgers? Well, I think the the biggest thing we're excited about in working with all these other council members is that they've already gone through the process of installing an enterprise class trusted server in their infrastructure. And got it running, right, for a specific use case, and it may or may not be edge. Right? So when we come to the council and we begin to, collaborate with and and work other companies like a Boeing, or an IBM or a ServiceNow or a Google, we'll gain this visibility into what what kind of applications are they running? Because we'll we'll bump into those customers. The there there probably will be Dell customers trying to solve those exact same problems. So we we tap into this, rich network of use cases that are already in flight, already have a lot of thought put behind them. And that can accelerate solutions for our customers, which is something we're really excited about. You know, we did extensive market research, and one of the biggest challenges or requirements for cycling is a very carbon friendly environment that we do. Yeah. With their ethos, right? Exactly right. So and there's been previously, you know, previous examples of NFT or web three projects in cycling that has failed because they did not address this or they didn't take that seriously. So first and foremost, we needed to find a network partner that had the best, you know, carbon neutral approach and had the most efficient sort of, you know, scalability around that. So after extensive research, of course, Hidera was an outright, you know, winner in terms of all of that. So that is an important part which we will be addressing. Hadera was obviously a no brainer when it came to the consensus mechanism, its scalability, it's EVM, you know, compliance or compatibility, which means that when we are looking about cross chain or multiple or interoperable options, that's gonna also key key down the road some, yeah, at some point because again, what what are your, you know, definition of the metaverse could be a different definition, but it should be this whole interoperable environment. We can't crowbar paths or user journeys down a certain path because we believe it's right. It has to be this, you know, this mismatch. But but Hedera is, you know, one of the easiest options for us to do because it's scalable. It's incredibly efficient, and it's also very cost effective. We didn't wanna go with a solution that obviously had, you know, high gas fees or high network fees or something like that because one, we're talking to an audience that that they don't even know what a gas for years. Right? And then you go, okay. Well, you have to do this. And then, by the way, there's a secondary or a third, component to cost implications. We we're gonna lose all of our audience. So we had to choose a network that was the most cost efficient also. And I mean, if you do your due diligence here there is like way out in the front, And also if you look at the the conglomerate that is behind all the the group of conglomerates that are behind it, Sarah, you know, you've got the likes of of of you know, Google and and those type of blue chips, it is an incredibly strong, you know, professional ecosystem. So Hadera for us was an absolute logical choice, and we're excited about working with, the Hadera teams and whatever this might look like, in the future. And so as you look ahead, you know, what do you see coming up for unstoppable domains in the next, six to twelve months? And we won't we won't hold you to any of these predictions. That's fine. Yeah. I mean, right now, you know, in this market, you know, the whole market, but us, in general, you know, we are building building building. You know, we are heads down. Kinda grinding through this this downturn in the market. And some of the things that we're really excited about are adding more and more layers of interesting, you know, points of control and communication and, you know, profile ownership in addition to what we already have. And so, you know, that's one of the things I really like about Hidera is, you know, the really fast transaction times and, you know, very low gas fees, predictable and constant gas fees. They're not, like, changing all the time. Like, we see on other networks. And so, you know, this isn't something that we're necessarily planning, but one of the things that I was thinking of that would be so cool. Would be, you know, like with the mobile app that we already have. If we could combine that with some type of, you know, point of ticketing. Right? Like, you know, for example, you've gone to an event and you've got your domain and your entry point, or access is some type of NFT that you've been granted to, you know, a verified address that's attached to your domain. And you need speed in that case, a network, like, Sarah, like, you, you know, I'm just imagining, you know, this queue behind you. You're like, I'm sorry. We're waiting for blocking confirmations right now. You know, like, like, it's never gonna lie. So, you know, a network that can handle the the load would be really cool. You know, I I'm picturing, like, you know, present your n f t, the person at the door scans it, burn the NFT, and now you your air dropped a receipt, you know, you know, something like that in place. Something like that would be super cool. Dan, you talked a little bit about, you know, a use case Can you share a little more about the kinds of industries that you're seeing interest from? Yeah. So our first implementation of the Dolby widgets was, with a government project in Queensland. One of the things they were looking to do was get some idea about, kind of, I guess, the carbon footprint of their building first of all, and then whether the level of solar investment they were making would cover the usage enough of their building. It turns out it wasn't wouldn't quite cover it one hundred percent, but they wanted the building to be carbon negative. Sorry, carbon neutral. So, where dovio comes into that is it allows us to implement their widget, but importantly, it's the information that we get off the back of it. So because Davu has carbon credits on Hadera, like, not not many other people do right now, maybe not even anybody, actually, and these are the integration for it. It it allows us to, you know, at the moment, it's it's a kind of manual process. We use how much of the, overage that we wanna offset through the dovio widgets, but, you know, this can be automated in the future, and it's something that we'll look at. But importantly, it's what the dovie system provides us back, which is a state proof that that retirement actually happens. So a state proof of those nontechnical people on there is cryptographic proof that a transaction happened on the Hodeira network. And what that allows us to do is feed that state proof into our audit level reports. And then what it gives us is, along with the time the solution provides, which is an end to end, you know, fully trusted pathway through how, how carbon moves through a system, we can actually then take it one step further and show that the retirement actually happened on chain on Hadera, basically giving a full end to end carbon creation, carbon offset. And I I don't think anybody else is doing that at the moment. Nothing. That's a really exciting reason for why we chose to work with Davu because it's it's something that really does give end to end. And it's, you know, once the auditors kinda see this kind of stuff, they're like, wow. Okay. Like, you've you've made my job so much easier. Don't even have to think about how I have to go and fetch all of this information because it's all there. It's all encoded in the token. I can see that you've offset it. I can see the cryptographic proof of it. I've got Dover credential it. And it's it's really they just need to go rather stamp, and that's it. Well, what we stand for is we want to build a quality project, high quality design, a high quality game play And we'd love to bring that. Well, we're already here, but, still finishing, of course, bring it to Hideira, showing, that Hadera has strong projects and and set them even more on the map. But mainly our focus will be gaming and and getting gamers to to onboard the whole system because it's it's such a big part of of the of the world that almost everyone is gaming. So if if you get gamers in in web three, well, everyone will will will know it And for us, personally, yeah, we we're working on a lot of things, still, now we'll be working on a new a mini game, psychic game, maybe you can say that because what we're building is is a long build, of course, this is not something that you finish in a few months. In the next couple of months, we will finish, a mini game. I do like the the word side kick game, Milan. Maybe we should do that like psychic animals. We'll talk about the meeting. But, and even there, we like to, to to show quality already, and, that will be the beginning of earning steam at the utility token of our of our big game play. So there's a lot, a lot of lot going on. So I'd love to just hear, you know, your story in terms of you now, you know, you've you've been developing product for quite some time. How has that journey been? Yeah. So, last, I would say, year, I started thinking about a hardware wallet developing something like that, for more than a year ago, I would say. Initially, it was just a concept. It was an idea in the back of my mind. I would always go back and forth if I should start building it or not and also I needed to do a lot of research and understand this hardware wallets. There's a lot of responsibility that comes with developing something like this. You're building a product that you that the community needs to trust and believe that it is actually going to secure their assets. And if they get hacked or all their funds are get getting stolen, there is a lot of responsibility that comes with that. So understanding that, realizing that I took my time and it it took me maybe like six months to do the research properly, look into other hardware wallets in the them see what they're doing, what their limitations are in terms of security, user friendliness, free, feature support, and collecting all of that information. Eventually, I decided to start building the wallet. Now a lot of the community members didn't know that I a hardware engineering background, and I've been building all kinds of different complex security focused systems for applications in military industry, avionic industry, automotive industry. So for me being in that industry and building this product, seemed like easy next step to do. But from the community side, it was understandable that initially not knowing that information I'm like, just this age part is one guy who's gonna build that. You and they would probably be like, okay, you're taking this too far. Life. Okay. So you did not start out building on Hadera. Tell us a little bit about your in developing the game? We focus on developing the game first, and then we we thought of adding web three features. Because the the most important thing of the game is to make it fun, and and that's why we add in mind that first of all, we need to focus on gameplay, and then, focus on web free features to increase the the fun in, in the gameplay. And, and that's why we, we thought we looked for, vlog for a blockchain that suits the suits us up. And we found we found for Solana. But then we found Heathera with their ecosystem, which which they help us a lot. Yeah, there has been great to us. They show us different partners, so we can work work with them, for example, with Hashpot. We were working with them to to give more features to to the players to make it easier. You know, there are lots of DLTs that you all could have chosen focus on, why did you pick Hadera? So our solution requires fast, secure low cost DLT because that's really what our clients need. We we focus a lot on on b to b cases and enterprise, use cases. So with our KyR goal aligns with many of those in y three that is to see projects with real world utility and making large scale impacts at a global level, that expedite the adoption of work three. So these projects will require performance, reliability, and security benefits that Adera provides. And, hopefully, in the process as well, leverage arcaya so these projects can reach their full potential. Right. So all of the things that, you know, enterprises have come to expect from their traditional compute infrastructure and applications. I think you are starting to see them say, hey, I expect those same things from web three. Exactly. And, I think the, you know, it just made sense to our combine efforts also with, Adera and Google and, you know, being that, that critical synergy to actually bring these use cases to life and a meaningful way. One of the things that we're going to be doing in the Philippines with Hagera on, on their DLT is integrating with financial service providers. Moving stable coins around and opening up additional channels to people underground who are in need of financial inclusion, things like welfare, like remittances, like the different financial entitlements that we get. And we've been speaking recently with some amazing introductions from the HHR Foundation to a government body, who around three million coconut farmers in Philippines, and what we've been told is that they in effect through the connections they have with the community, affect about ten x that's of thirty million people in the Philippines are in some way connect affected or associated with coconut farming. And with Haderia's Guardian initiative, what we're hoping to do is leverage that there from an ESG point of view. And capture and include a good chunk of those. So what we're really doing is building on top of the existing Padira DLT platform that's built bringing a new application to that, which is effectively a wallet that's emerging identity with payments. And the vision that we have been is to open that up to broader financial services. I'm creating a link between what is the Filipino peso and crypto, which includes stable coins and HVAR And that is a particularly tricky thing to do at the moment right now, especially with crypto being in the media. But one of the reasons that we wanted to work with Lyra and we wanted to work in the Philippines is because it's pro crypto right now. And if you look at how the, the Banco Central Philippines He is crypto and the applications that are out there, they're quite numerous and plentiful. So we believe that we've got a good landscape. We've got a great jurisdiction. And we've got the partnerships to really do something that is scalable, meaningful, impactful, and that leaves a legacy. And that's, again, as you say, bringing identity together, and, we believe Hadeira is gonna be an ideal platform to help us. For someone who has been, you know, a gamer a long time, you know, and maybe a little bit weary. What can you, you know, go into a little bit more? What are those benefits for them? What are they gonna get that they weren't able to get in just a traditional web to experience? Yeah. So let's use the the karate combat partnership that we have as an example and and Karadaka, which is the project we're launching with karate combat. So in that example, we're going to be selling playable digital fighters. So every fighter in the karate combat league, you're gonna be able to to to buy them. They'll be limited at two hundred per fighter, but it will look and feel like the actual fighter that that's fighting in the live events. With that, playable digital fighter. Notice, we're not calling it an NFT. Of course, it isn't NFT, but it's a playable digital fighter. You can you can gear it up. So you can buy gear like weapons and shorts and and other different items that can not only change the look of your playable digital fighter but give it an advantage in the games. So that ownership there and the ability to to change the look and feel, but also change the power and how it performs in the games for you, is is something that that blockchain can provide. And then being able to then go and use that in a fantasy game, that gives you rewards based on the real time events that are happening, you know, while you're watching the stream is really unique. And that whole experience, we believe that blockchain and and web three is the best technology to power it in the background. We just don't lead with that messaging. We lead with the the benefits for for the user. I like to use an analogy. There's a couple of analogies, but, you know, if you're from the technical world and you you have a website, and the user is is going on your web you don't stop them and say, Hey, we're on AWS or we're using Google Cloud because that would be weird. Like, the Right. Or in another example is someone wants to use your bathroom at home. They don't ask what the pipes are made of. They just use the bathroom. So why are we leading with all this technical stuff in web three? It's kind of a branding problem that that web three has right now. And there's many ways to solve it, you know, and there's many there's many different ways truly provide utility where we're choosing games and other other areas, I think, like loyalty and rewards for brands will be huge as well, which I know Hadera is doing a bunch of work in. But for us, we're creating that comfortable and familiar environment using using games. You know, hype curves are real. And I feel like the NFTs had a hype curve. And the the application of a non fungible token is much, much bigger than just a JPEG, which, obviously, it's not just a JPEG. There's also entire community and exclusivity there. But the concept's very complicated to explain to a non, crypto native person. Right. So what enterprises that that we've been talking to, there's been use cases from shipping and understanding tokenization of assets. I think we can look at, you know, Atma IO and how they're helping large scale enterprise track things, using cryptography. And it's a lot, a lot of use cases that are about transparency. And so, you know, you get an added benefit when you do a decentralized database solution, because you it's no longer just like this one giant, you know, oh, I cracked into Equifax. I now have a hundred million people's personal information. It's a decentralized method of storage. So you have security, but then, information you want to be auditable is easily to put on the main anyone can then look at, which has been a use case for other, enterprises as well. And, you know, what we're trying to do at at Turtle Moon is is good into music NFTs. So, actually, May eighteenth, seven PM. My my single is gonna be launching on Turtle Moon dot I o backslash music, and we're gonna start delving into what's the mechanism of communication and interoperability between a musician directly with their fans without Spotify in the middle, and, how do you how do you make that relationship much more tangible to both parties and much more rewarding. And we're we're kinda diving into that, and I'm very excited to release the music and to explore that new media which is music distribution on web three and what does it mean and how does it functionally work. Because I I don't think that code has been cracked just yet, and we have a little bit of a different perspective on how might work? How did you learn about Hadera and decide to, you know, build a solution onto Hadera? So, right in the beginning, when we were looking at the revenue share, format of distribution. We we were obviously it made no sense for us to go with any platform where the transactions fees were high. Or variable. Right? Because then the whole point or, like, you wouldn't get your profit margins. They would eat up into margins, and you would have predictable margins either. So we found out very early on, like, I think in twenty twenty one, when I was researching, I found header, which had fixed, very low fees, high transaction speed, and fixed, low fixed and high transaction fees. Right? So it fit all the the complete bill for us. Plus I think the fact that, ahead arise back by enterprises as council members We felt that, at an early stage of, blockchain when everybody is not sure, and there are so many players. We were looking for, like, a platform that has credibility as with. Since the seventeenth, of this month, we we announced, a major partnership with Sterling University. So, and it's basically for educational content. So let me just give you a bit of the backstory how this all came about. So if you go to yamca dot com today right now. You can use our advanced, you can use our advanced wallet tools. You can set up multi signature. You can go there. You can You can earn Hbar by doing activities like downloading games, and you can also earn Hbar today right now by looking at videos. And you can have multi that we have, a number of campaigns running at the moment to learn about Yanggo, to learn about Hodeira. And at the end of them, you you can earn h bar. So if you answer the question correctly, so we've this is a learn to earn product, which, you know, the lender in the industry is somewhat like Coinbase. Like, that they they have already learned to earn. So we for the the past few months, we've been looking at how we can get solve this educational challenge properly and have a long running program where we can educate people and that there's nowhere better to educate people than at university. You know, there's people that are very keen to learn They, you know, the universities want to teach people how to use a digital wallet and what cryptocurrency is, and how it all works. So we started a number of months ago, well, six months ago to be honest, talking to universities about how we could have a kind of university educational program to make sure that students are learning, you know, about HADira, about HVAR, how it works, how the key works, what's a non customer what's a hot wallet? All of these really big key features. So, yeah, Sterling University, I'm pleased to announce, has signed a partnership with us for educational content. So, Sterling is one of the UK's top universities. It's ranked top thirty for student satisfaction. Sturling is Fourth in Scotland, and the forty third, I think, in the UK for researching back. And they get a fantastic campus. It's it's a kind of, northeast of Edinburgh. Alright. And so now you sort of have this, you know, blank slate approach. You know, I think the, like you said, the mortgage industry has not changed in decades. Right? It's still the same processes. It's still very much a I mean, the the amount of paperwork you have to sign, you know, on a mortgage or refinance is ridiculous. But if you take this, you know, sort of blue sky approach and you say, great. Let's reimagine homeownership from ground up. What does that look like? Yeah. So a quarter is really it's a whole new way of thinking about homeownership. And what what we've done is we have taken homeowners, people that wanna go out and buy homes, and we're pairing them with people who want to invest in properties. Right? That's another piece that a lot of people are locked out of. You can't participate in in investing in real estate unless you are living in a home because it's so expensive to go buy a property, get a property management company to take care of that. So really what Corridor is doing is we're taking the home occupant, the person who wants to buy the home, and matching them with these people who who want to invest in property. And what the result of that is is fifty percent cheaper for the consumer than a traditional mortgage between twenty to thirty percent cheaper than market rent across the thirteen thousand zip codes that we've run our model against in the US. And returns for the investors similar to what you would see if you were to go out and buy a rental property and and get a property manager and rent it out. And so it's really exciting. And the cool part about it is we're using this new distributed ledger technology to really make that possible because now you can come and you can fractionally invest in a property, you know, down to one dollar if that's what you want to do. And and participate in this this ecosystem that's never existed before, which is investment in owner occupied real estate. The travel industry overall is still archaic, you know, and and it is in dire need of deception. Basically, entire infrastructure is reliant on old outdated complex massive distribution channel, okay, and involving these intermediaries and and and offering other people to want to travel businesses on top of that is extremely complex. So when we say a Shopier Shopify for travel, it's not just mere word because it's like you're building in websites, which are highly complex and can handle all the travel bookings, and many people can simply white label them put the brands on. So when when we're only coming to the point to communities, it's not only the people who have same group affiliations or things they would like to do it together, but there are, major groups or employees. Think of like, people in in AAA who will already, remember there, they can simply activate travel ads and another additional, white label branded booking engine for their community who are saving the funds who are saving the money on their travel spin. So there are travel talking groups you know, company. But just to clarify that. So a company like AAA or Costco, right, those sort of massive closed user groups. Right? They have membership based, They have literally billions of dollars in the bank. They can afford to build a custom booking engine. You know, they can afford to get lawyers to get all that inventory for them and to get all the regulatory clear. But it will cost them millions and millions of dollars to build a nice you know, travel experience that people are from, you know, people have very high expectations for what it feels like to inter interact with the travel selling service online because the big b to c, travel selling services also have billions of dollars in the bank, and it shows, right, in that beautiful travel experience that you have, looking with them. So how do other organizations that are not the size of Costco or AAA? How do they launch an engine? How do they jump on this bandwagon? It is vastly out of their financial means to build all of this. We've done it for them in a fully scalable service so everybody can have that quality of experience that they can offer to their community. And they can make it really feel sort of tailored to that group and their what they want to experience. That's customizable. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Correct. It's customizable. And they save money. On top of that or make money. And what does it mean to participate in the free zone? Okay. Participate means that, participants looking for a company to set up here, especially on a web tree site. They will be able to they are close to about hundred and seventy activities, on the, free zone for participants for our community to actually look at setting up their companies. So one of the one of the main things for that is you know, for web free community, the it's it's very difficult to, let's say, open a bank account, with the web tree companies. So what we do is we want them to narrow the gap to close out the gap by offering that where, in Russell, part of the United Arab Emirates, there are a couple of, banks that literally, it's majority owned by the Shake itself. They will be able to, help out in terms of opening bank accounts for Raqdao's company. So almost like an incubator, if you are a technology company in one of these areas, you know, you're looking for support. You're looking to sort of have a sandbox where you can experiment and grow your technology Yeah. Exactly. So, one of the things that we are quite, if you like that to have you are truly to have is to have Hbar Foundation to join us. There was an announcement, yesterday, which is on the, third of, July, where HPA announced to have a cooperation with lockdown in terms of helping out, the community setting up, more by pre companies here in Rockdowell. And at the same time, probably look at, more collaborations between, Hyderira and Raqnaud.