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Proven outcomes in higher education, from the people who achieved them.

Signals in Higher Ed, hosted by Darin Francis, is a podcast focused on practical outcomes in education, featuring practitioners and administrators who share what has actually worked in their institutions. The channel gives a platform to trusted voices in higher education to discuss policy, technology adoption, and student success strategies. It serves edtech buyers, institutional leaders, and faculty looking for vetted solutions to common challenges.

34 episodes
Channel Brief·signals in higher ed · 34 episodes
Updated Jun 30, 2026

Higher ed must prove workforce value through experiential learning

The channel argues that traditional credentials no longer suffice; institutions must embed real work, employer partnerships, and measurable career outcomes into the core curriculum. Evidence comes from employer surveys, enrollment trends, and case studies of institutions scaling experiential learning.

Signals in Higher Ed contends that higher education's legitimacy now rests on demonstrable workforce readiness, not degree completion alone. The channel supports this through concrete employer signals (skills gaps, hiring practices), demographic pressures (enrollment decline, demographic cliff), and working examples of institutions redesigning programs around experiential learning, apprenticeships, and employer co-creation rather than classroom-first models.

Drawn from Higher Ed's Seed Round: How Universities Decid… and 3 more

More than half of graduates are underemployed after finishing their degrees.

Episode 8: If Higher Ed Wants Experiential Learning at Scale

By the numbers

40-50%

Engineering program dropout rates in the U.S.

59 of 100

Global workers requiring reskilling by 2030, per WEF

4.7M

New jobs projected between 2022 and 2032 (Bureau of Labor Statistics)

11%+

Annual growth rate for continuing education segment

What the channel argues

DataNACE Job Outlook 2026 shows students must demonstrate concrete skill examples during hiring.
DataEngineering programs see dropout rates as high as 40-50%, with even higher attrition at regional universities.
DataWorld Economic Forum reports 59 out of 100 workers globally require reskilling or upskilling by 2030.
DataU.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects 4.7 million new jobs between 2022 and 2032.
DataContinuing education is growing at more than 11% annually while undergraduate enrollment declines.
InsightSlippery Rock and UVA are redesigning experiential learning as institution-wide strategy rather than optional add-on.

What you'll learn

How universities systematically evaluate market demand and financial viability before launching online programs, using enrollment modeling and cross-campus coordination.
Why employer-sponsored apprenticeships and earn-while-you-learn models are reshaping the value proposition of higher education beyond traditional four-year degrees.
How scaling experiential learning requires embedding real work into core curriculum and career coaching across all students, not limiting it to internships or co-ops.
What skills employers actually prioritize: moral courage, creative confidence, judgment, communication, and adaptability alongside technical knowledge.
How healthcare, engineering, and teacher-training sectors are pioneering shorter, competency-based pathways to address urgent workforce shortages.

What to do about it

Map your institution's current experiential learning footprint and identify which students have access versus which are excluded by geography, cost, or timing constraints.
Establish or strengthen employer advisory relationships beyond advisory boards: co-design curriculum, embed live projects into courses, and commit to outcome tracking.
Audit your career services function to identify whether it operates in isolation or is integrated into academic departments, and shift resources to embed career coaching and work-based learning into the core academic experience.

Who and what shows up

Fritz Andover

Director of Online Program Support Services, University of Minnesota

Laid out how universities systematically evaluate market opportunity, model enrollment, and secure funding for online programs across all five campuses.

Kristen Fox

CEO of Business-Higher Education Forum

Discussed employer-university alignment and research from NACE showing students with internships or work-based learning receive significantly more job offers and higher starting salaries.

Dr. John Rindy

Slippery Rock University

Demonstrated how regional public universities are scaling experiential learning as strategic response to enrollment pressure and labor market demands.

Jason Aubrey

Skilltrade

Showed how experiential and competency-based learning models address allied health worker shortages through faster, more affordable pathways than traditional degrees.

Kevin Harrington

CEO, Rize Education

Identified that more than 60% of college operating budgets are tied to traditional classroom models, and proposed collaborative program-sharing as alternative.

Questions this channel answers

Q

How do universities decide which online or new programs to build and fund?

Universities evaluate market opportunity, model enrollment scenarios, align with institutional goals, and secure funding through offices like University of Minnesota's Director of Online Program Support Services, which works across all five campuses.

Higher Ed's Seed Round: How Universities Decide Which Pr…
Q

Why are traditional internships and co-ops no longer sufficient for workforce readiness?

Many students cannot pause life to relocate or take unpaid roles due to financial constraints, family responsibilities, or work obligations. UVA and others are redesigning experiential learning to integrate into core curriculum rather than relying on external placements.

Flood the Zone: University of Virginia’s New Strategy to…
Q

What skills do employers actually prioritize in new graduates?

Beyond technical knowledge, employers value moral courage, creative confidence, judgment, communication, adaptability, and the ability to navigate ambiguity and work across teams. These are increasingly assessed through work-based learning rather than exams.

Creative Confidence and Moral Courage: The Leadership Tr…
Q

How can regional public universities sustain experiential learning with limited resources?

Scaling requires institution-wide strategy, not isolated programs. Slippery Rock and others embed applied learning into core curriculum, partner directly with employers on real projects, and tie student persistence to career-connected experiences.

Scaling Experiential Learning at Slippery Rock Universit…
Q

What is driving the shift from degree-centric to competency and skills-based credentialing?

Declining confidence in four-year degree ROI, employer skills gaps, federal policy shifts like Workforce Pell tying funding to completion and placement outcomes, and urgent workforce shortages in healthcare, education, and engineering.

The Degree That Pays You Back: How Employer-Sponsored Ap…
Topics:Experiential learning and work-based learningEmployer-sponsored apprenticeshipsCareer services and workforce alignmentSkills-based hiring and credentialsScaling experiential learning across institutions
Themes:Education-to-employment pipeline redesignInstitution-wide employer alignment as strategic imperativeScaling equitable access to experiential learning

Industry context

Higher education institutions increasingly embed work-based learning and real-world employer projects into curricula to align student outcomes with workforce demand and demonstrate career readiness.

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