# Listen: The Hybridization of Usable Space with Ian Zapata

Published 2018-03-01 · Updated 2026-03-12 · Professional AV on MarketScale
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> On today’s podcast, we chat with Ian Zapata, the Design Director with Gensler. We discuss the changing approach to design with humans in mind, the increasing hybridization of usable spaces, the concept of designing without fear, and that wearing a lab coat every day wasn’t in the cards for him. For more information on…

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On today’s podcast, we chat with Ian Zapata, the Design Director with Gensler. We discuss the changing approach to design with humans in mind, the increasing hybridization of usable spaces, the concept of designing without fear, and that wearing a lab coat every day wasn’t in the cards for him.

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